It Won't Be Lieberman

As McCain's VP selection nears, Joe Lieberman has been consistently floated as a one of the top potential picks along with Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty and Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Robert Novak even came out of retirement to write a column urging McCain not to pick Lieberman. Last night we were treated to a Politico story about some supposed backstage intrigue regarding McCain's pick.

However, as Republican blog Race42008 points out, there's one little detail that makes me think the Lieberman chatter is just that - chatter designed to further McCain's "maverick" image.

The major thing standing in the way of a Lieberman Vice-Presidential pick for McCain is a seemingly small thing - an RNC rule that states that a Vice Presidential nominee must have been a Republican for at least 60 days prior to nomination.

There are only two ways around that rule as far as I know - the first being that Lieberman has already switched his party affiliation a couple months ago secretly without letting anybody know (highly, highly, highly unlikely). The other option would be for the delegates to vote to waive that rule at the RNC -- and it's not hard to imagine how that would go.

If McCain chooses Lieberman, he won't just be telling the Republican base and Christian conservatives to stay home this fall - he'll face an  unprecedented procedural fight at the convention, one it's not clear that he'd win.

Is McCain flipping the bird to his base and putting his best bud Lieberman on the ticket really worth all this trouble? It's hard to see how it could be. Instead, it's more likely the leaks to the press are designed to enchance McCain's "independent" credentials the week before he's set to appear at the convention with George Bush and Dick Cheney.



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Re: It Won't Be Lieberman (2.00 / 1)

Hmm, I wonder if this rule was dredged up just today. Would explain why McCain went from decided to undecided in a few hours.


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by vcalzone on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:12:14 PM EST

Re: It Won't Be Lieberman (2.00 / 1)

That would be awesome, and hilarious.


by animated on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:18:42 PM EST
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*weeps* (2.00 / 1)

But I wanted the battle of the Joes during the VP debate!


Hillary is voting for Obama, so why aren't you?
by BrighidG on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:42:14 PM EST

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He can't choose a pro-choice running mate.

Palin, Pawlenty...but Mitt is still in the lead.


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by WashStateBlue on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 01:59:28 PM EST

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I think its going to be Hutchinson. Picking a woman is the best way to prevent Hillary's older, female voters coming home. It also helps McCain look modern, and it says 'change'.


by liberalj on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:11:57 PM EST

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Can you really imagine a President Kay Bailey Hutchinson should something happen to McCain? It's not a sexist thing, I just don't think she has the leadership ability.


by animated on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:15:37 PM EST
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Re: It Won't Be Lieberman (none / 0)

No, i agree.

I just think if McCain is smart then he'd pick her because he isn't going to change the game with a conventional pick like Pawlenty. Another strongly anti-abortion man on the ticket isn't going to appeal to Hillary voters.


by liberalj on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 07:32:41 PM EST
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And it would go into the strategy of.... (none / 0)

taking the steam out of the Convention for Obama.  He could leak that today and all the talking heads would immediately start yakking about it. If he tried that with Pawlenty or Romney, he would get a big yawn.

Personally, I hope he choses the "big stiff" aka Mitt.  How many houses do they own between them :)


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by xenontab on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:34:36 PM EST
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Re: And it would go into the strategy of.... (none / 0)

Please let it be Romney.

A ticket worth $300m running in a recession is a tv ad that writes itself.

The Romney clips attacking McCain, the flip flops, the problems with the base. Romney would be a terrible pick for McCain.


by liberalj on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 07:34:30 PM EST
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I am really pissed (none / 0)

about the Rove interference in pushing Lieberman to withdraw.  Stuff like this is why I have always disliked Repub politics, and a part of the reason why I'm moved from away from McCain.
At this point, unless Lieberman is the VP nominee, I will support Obama/Biden.  I might even toss some cash just to defeat Rove and his trash.  
Joe Lieberman Democrat. Supported Biden and then Clinton in the primaries. Will vote for Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin.
by Clintonite4McCainA on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:19:35 PM EST

Re: I am really pissed (none / 0)

Rove has every fucking right to interfere even if he is a scumbag. It's their party. Go join the repubs as your preference for McCain-Lieberman signals that either you are a sucker for people who do not have a clue in exercising prudent foreign policy judgement. It would be curious that you call yourself a democrat considering Lieberman and McCain both support Bush's worst blunder of the last 8 years and Lieberman was even less critical of Bush's strategy than what McCain expressed. You obviousy have no problem with Lieberman ignoring Katrina's mistakes to pay back Bush for pleasing Lieberman with the idiotically expensive Iraq war. Just think about it. lieberman is the first to wag his finger at what he deems immoral. Yet he wants to let bygones be bygones with the Katrina negligence despite being the Homeland Security chair.

How exactly is Romney much worse than Lieberman?


by Pravin on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:41:03 PM EST
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You're really interested in turning off (1.00 / 1)

a swing voter, I see.  Lieberman is a liberal on domestic issues and hawkish on foreign policy, just like me.  I voted for him in 2000 and 2004, and was very enthusiastic in doing so.

Romney is a wealthy asshole who is a right-winger on domestic issues and a jerk to boot.  Your hatred for good progressives like Lieberman, who continue the FDR/Truman tradition blinds you to the facts.


Joe Lieberman Democrat. Supported Biden and then Clinton in the primaries. Will vote for Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin.
by Clintonite4McCainA on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 02:57:46 PM EST
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Re: You're really interested in turning off (1.50 / 2)

A good progressive doesnt adovcate foolish wars which cost lives and billions of dollars that could be used to help out domestically in progressive areas Lieberman votes for but doesn't spend enough energy on compared to his AIPAC agenda. I am no pacifist. I am no leftist. I jsut despise foolish warmongering disguised as "hawkishness". Lieberman has spent more energy on Iraq and Iran compared to afghanistan and Pakistan.

A progressive doesn't demonize other progressives as Lieberman has been doing(EVEN PRE-LAMONT DAYS) over one issue. You can't have it both ways. YOu can't accuse us of demonizing Lieberman over one issue when he has been doing exactly the same for many years. The guy just gets unhinged when anyone differs with him on the middle east.

A progressive doesn't court favor with the Bushies by ignoring their Katrina mistakes in his position on the Homeland Security committee because being friendly with Bush on Iraq is more important to him.

And let's not forget all the lies Lieberman mentioned in during his general election fight.

Lieberman rarely ever took the Bushies to task ina serious way. Is that the sign of a progressive to you?


by Pravin on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 03:10:19 PM EST
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